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Re: Old word processors

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From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 00:56
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Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> writes:
> I was writing a blog article about early word processors and spreadsheets
> <https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/2018/03/history-of-wordprocessors-and-spread.html>
> but only covered early 8-Bit micros. Assuming Electric Pencil was the
> first while WordStar or SuperCalc (spreadsheet) only really became famous
> in the early days of the late 70s to early 80s.
>
> I know that in offices before that era type writers were used, even if an
> IBM Selectric could ease the work. But they were hardware. They hadn't a
> display (monitor) to edit text and only when done print it out.
>
> Still I wonder if big machines like some IBM 360/370 did not have word
> processors... By word processor I do not mean any text editor. A word
> processor should at least be able to wrap a word into the next line if it
> didn't fit into the current line. And had some markup for defining a bold
> or italic character and sub- and superscript.
>
> Apparently the IBM MT/ST (Magnetic Tape/Selectric Typewriter) from 1964
> would match that description which was used only with an IBM
> Selectric. But there should had been applications which would not depend
> on an external type writer rather than using a dedicated printer, no?

some of the CTSS 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
went to the 5th flr, 545 tech sq,  to do MULTICS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics

and others went to the science center on the 4th floor and did virtual
machines, online computing, internal network, computer performance,
etc. As might be expected there was a little competition between the 4th
& 5th flrs. One of my hobbies was developing & supporting enhanced
operating systems for internal datacenters. It wasn't fair to compare
the total number of VM customers to MULTICS or even the number of VM
internal datacenters to MULTICS .... however I could compare the number
of my "CSC/VM" internal datacenters ... which was more than the total
number of all MULTICS installations (over its lifetime).

they initially did virtual machine CP/40 (& CMS) on 360/40 with hardware
modifications supporting virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt

CP/40 morphed into CP/67 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_CP/CMS
when 360/67 became available that came standard with virtual memory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360-67

CMS had standard conversational editor. Also CTSS RUNOFF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TYPSET_and_RUNOFF
CTSS RUNOFF manual
http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/CC-244.html

was re-implemented on CMS as "script" & looked very much
like CTSS RUNOFF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCRIPT_(markup)

At the univ. I added TTY/ASCII terminal support to CP/67 (existing
2741&1052 terminal support). Then I hacked os/360 HASP ... and added
CRJE-like terminal support to HASP and editor that re-implemented the
CMS editor systax from scratch.

In 1969 GML was invented at the science center ("G", "M", "L" chosen for
the 1st letter from the inventors last name) and GML tag processing
support added to CMS script. After a decade GML evolves into ISO
international standard SGML.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Generalized_Markup_Language
past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
After another decade SGML morphs into HTML at CERN.
http://infomesh.net/html/history/early/
Waterloo script original derived from CMS script
http://csg.uwaterloo.ca/sdtp/watscr.html

Univ of Michigan implemented MTS for their 360/67 and wrote lots
of their own online apps (like editors)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Terminal_System

Stanford implemented Orvyl for their 360/67 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORVYL_and_WYLBUR
and the editor WYLBUR was later ported to VS2 and is still in some use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORVYL_and_WYLBUR#SuperWylbur%E2%84%A2

trivia: One of the guys on the 5th flr & MULTICS ... leaves for one of
the CP67/CMS virtual machine commercial online service spinoffs from
the science center (along with some of the CP67 people out at MIT
Lincoln Labs) ... which fairly quickly moves up the value stream
to specializing in offering online services and information to
the financial industry. In the late 70s, he teams up with Bricklin
to do Visicalc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc

IBM marketing CP/CMS, VM370/CMS, z/VM history
https://www-01.ibm.com/events/wwe/grp/grp019.nsf/vLookupPDFs/7%20-%20VM-45-JahreHistory-EA-J-Elliott%20%5BKompatibilit%C3%A4tsmodus%5D/$file/7%20-%20VM-45-JahreHistory-EA-J-Elliott%20%5BKompatibilit%C3%A4tsmodus%5D.pdf

science center, 545tech sq posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

other trivia: 1st web server in the US was at CERN's sister
site, SLAC on their VM370 system
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/firstpages.shtml

even more trivia: one of the IBM SEs (system engineers) in the IBM LA
branch office redid CMS script clone in the late 70s on trs80 and sold
it on trs80 and other machines (wrote "NewScript" and "Allwrite!")

NewScript version 7, 1982 at wayback machine
https://archive.org/details/NewScript_v7.0_1982_Tesler_Software_Corporation

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virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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