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Article #621049Re: Why so many 6s and 8s in the 70s?
From: Dan Espen
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 00:19
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 00:19
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hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com writes: > On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 9:18:29 PM UTC-4, Dan Espen wrote: >> rnet...@gmail.com writes: >> >> > On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 1:45:05 PM UTC-4, han...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >> >> IBM's calculator series were in the 600s, so I would guess that 7 was >> >> the next available series. >> >> >> >> IBM planned to have the subsequent computers in the 800 or 8000 >> >> series, but this was cancelled and replaced by S/360. >> >> >> >> I don't know where the "14" came from for the 1401 series. >> > >> > The 14 came from the fact that the origial model, sold as an >> > "elecronically programmable tabulator", had 1400 postions of internal >> > storage. >> > >> > Bob Netzlof >> >> Never heard that before but that sounds plausible. >> >> Leaving the mystery of how they chose: >> >> 1401 >> 1410 >> 1460 >> 1440 >> >> I've always assumed model numbers and names are chosen by the >> sales force and their reasoning is something like "that sounds nice". > > In addition to the 1410, there was also the 7010. > https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/dpd50/dpd50_chronology2.html > > I don't have my IBM Early Computers history handy, but I believe > it said the 14xx series was actually an outgrowth of several > different development efforts, for example, a super-tabulator > for European service and something called the "Wooden Wheel". > IBM eventually re-oriented those efforts into a common > stored-program computer product line. > > The book talks a little about the development history of the > other models. I think at least one model, and maybe several, > were actually intended to be something else, and IBM had them > change their architecture to 14xx compatible. > > As mentioned, the 1410 was "sort of" 1401 compatible, while the > 1460 was compatible. I'm not sure of the differences of the 1410 > and 1460--that is, why a customer would buy one over the other-- > but I suspect that came out of the differing background. The > unity of S/360 was supposed to eliminate that kind of confusion. As mentioned elsewhere, the 1410 could use 5 characters for addressing supporting a lot more storage. > Some of the other 14xx models were higher end, but one was a > low-end. I think the low-end model didn't sell too well because > it was too costly for the low performance. > > As we know, Haanstra was not a supporter of S/360 and actually > quietly built a 'super' 1401 using new components. IBM was > not pleased by this effort and he was punished for it. > > As Campbell-Kelly explains in their book, the beauty of the > IBM 1401 was not in its electronics (not a big deal) but rather > the 1403 printer, which gave high quality at a significantly > faster rate. As mentioned, I remain amazed that for _years_, > customers tolerated wavy lines of other mainframe line printers, > even slow ones. Just to defend the slower IBM 1443 common on the 1440, it produced pretty high quality output. -- Dan Espen
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