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Article #620963Re: Computer science hot major in college (article)
From: Jorgen Grahn
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:08
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:08
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On Tue, 2018-02-27, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 19:17:36 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot > <ste...@eircom.net> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Most definitely, one of the more interesting variants comes from an >>approach common in the Java 'Enterprise' world where the aim is to put the >>complexity into the object structure of the program and not expose it in the >>code. This kind of code tends to have vast numbers of classes defined >>(many autogenerated or 90% autogenerated), most with names partly derived >>from a design patterns (FooDAO, FooInterface, FooImplemetation, FooListView, >>FooDetailView) and a flow of control that is almost impossible to find >>because it is *deliberately* hidden from view. > > I bounced off the patterns book. It seemed as if actually simply > instantiating a class was to be avoided. > > Did I dodge a bullet? I think you did. It seems to me most of the GoF patterns were about techniques for writing reusable libraries, using the tools available in Smalltalk (mostly inheritance). For most code, it's simply not needed ... but a lot of people thought their job was to cram in as many patterns as possible in the code. No doubt many people still feel patterns are important, but there /was/ a backlash at some point. And popular languages like Python and C++ are unlike Smalltalk, with standard libraries not based on patterns. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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