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Article #620874Re: Computer science hot major in college (article)
From: JimP
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 22:09
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 22:09
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On 24 Feb 2018 15:42:54 -0400, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote: > >JimP <solo...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 24 Feb 2018 08:29:08 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> >> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 2018-02-24, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> On 2018-02-23, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com <hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Personally, I think all programmers, whatever their specialty, >>>>> should have a solid background in algebra. IMHO, if someone >>>>> is weak in algebra, they'll be a weak programmer. >>> >>>That's the stance my university took, around 1990. You didn't get to >>>do computer science until after some hefty maths courses (where most >>>of the students dropped off). >>> >>>> Better still, a solid background in logic. > >My post about the prof who meant to make a course in "computer >programming" consist of "mumerical methods" wasn't meant to deprecate >math as background for programming. Most or all of the people in the >course were majors in the sciences with attendant requirements for >calculus, statistics and the like. > >In 1964, programmers weren't building GUIs, designing addictive phone >apps or data collection scripts for web pages. (What then passed for) >big data -- payrolls, say, or policy holder databases -- were just >getting off the ground, still on cards . So the prof did have a >point: If you went into engineering industry as a programmer, you >might be asked to determine numerically, given blueprints and material >specs, how much a 90 storey building would sway or aircraft wings >wobble. Numerical solution of differential equations was the word. > >Notably, Atansoff's ABC was then more recent than the first public web >server is today. So the prof could be forgiven for wanting to teach >the Rung-Kutta method instead of Fortran. It just wasn't what the >enrollees in the class were looking for. > > >>> I think of it as having a talent for working within systems of rules. >>> Maths is a good way to exercise that talent. I suppose board games >>> are too, but I'm a lousy player. >>> >>> But I'm not sure ... nowadays I tend to think of programming as a >>> craft. I never used much of my formal training, and some of the best >>> programmers I've worked with had none. >>> >>>> Any programmer worth his salt should know about De Morgan's theorem, >>>> whether he knows its name or not. >>> >>>I had forgotten the name, but yes. >>> >>>/Jorgen >> >> I looked it up... never used it in any programming class, and never >> used it to repair a computer. I had to take a math minor so I probably >> had it in algebra. Don't remember it from the calculus classes I took, >> I have gladly forgotten my calculus. I wrote, but not what you replied to.
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