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Article #620831Re: Implementation of a Turing Machine?
From: JimP
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:14
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:14
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:20:08 -0700, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >JimP <solo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 10:11:05 -0800, Michael LeVine >> <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2018-02-21 17:48:34 +0000, Gene Wirchenko said: >>> >>>> On 21 Feb 2018 11:13:54 GMT, maus <ma...@mail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-02-20, Gene Wirchenko <ge...@telus.net> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:11:12 +0000, Gareth's Downstairs Computer >>>>>> <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19/02/2018 07:26, Gene Wirchenko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not enough description of the state machine, though, for >>>>>>> each state need to know action if 1 or 0 read, whether to >>>>>>> write back 1 or 0, and next state whether 1 or 0 read. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is particularly fascinating that a Turing Machine could >>>>>>> have been built with the technology available at the time >>>>>>> it was first postualted (1935?) >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not think that that is that notable. The machine could have >>>>>> been made back in Babbage's time. (Too bad Babbage did not come up >>>>>> with something more immediately practical.) >>>> >>>>> AFAIhaveread, the problem was that it not possible to machine parts to >>>>> the limits that Babbage's machines needed, at that time. >>>> >>>> I was thinking of that plus that Babbage did not get something >>>> practical going. That might have helped get mechanical computing >>>> going big. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Gene Wirchenko >>> >>> His difference engine was built tothe same tolerance's that were >>> available in his time, >>> and it worked as designed. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1EM3gQkAY >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlbQsKpq3Ak >> >> The antikythera mechanism was built to very tight tolerances and >> worked. >> > >And, I think, the gear teeth were filed by hand. I don't believe gear >cutting machinery had not yet been invented. I've watched a documentary by a model maker in England who did just that to make the gears.
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