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Article #620739Re: xref Nostalgia
From: Scott Lurndal
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:37
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:37
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Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> writes: >Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >> On 2018-03-01, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote: >> >>> In article <slrnp9e76p.eu5.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>, >>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote: >>> >>>> That too, but I'm personally more interested in the time frame when >>>> tools I use today were created: the Unix shells, C compilers, >>>> vi/Emacs, troff ... >>> >>> I was writing C programs on Unix by late 1975 and I don't ever >>> remember using a program to do variable crossrers. Whatever >>> it needed to do, grep was good enough, or the tag schemes later >>> written for emacs and vi. >>> >>> Before that I did use the PDP-10 MACRO-10 cref program from time to >>> time, even though we had text editors that had some sort of string >>> search. >> >> I guess once we went from paper listings to screens, good editors, >> and grep, the need for cross-reference listings faded. I used to be a >> cross-reference fanatic; I wrote utilities that would cross-reference >> JCL libraries (jobs using a given program, file name, or DDname), and >> source libraries (modules using a given macro or DDname). >> > >Multics has a wonderful cross-reference of all symbols in the kernel. As does the Lyon's commentary on Unix version 6. And my locale cscope database has the entire cross-reference of the kernel version I'm running on my desktop.
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