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Re: xref Nostalgia

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From: Scott Lurndal
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:37
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Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> writes:
>Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2018-03-01, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <slrnp9e76p.eu5.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>,
>>> Jorgen Grahn  <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That too, but I'm personally more interested in the time frame when
>>>> tools I use today were created: the Unix shells, C compilers,
>>>> vi/Emacs, troff ...
>>> 
>>> I was writing C programs on Unix by late 1975 and I don't ever
>>> remember using a program to do variable crossrers.  Whatever
>>> it needed to do, grep was good enough, or the tag schemes later
>>> written for emacs and vi.
>>> 
>>> Before that I did use the PDP-10 MACRO-10 cref program from time to
>>> time, even though we had text editors that had some sort of string
>>> search.
>> 
>> I guess once we went from paper listings to screens, good editors,
>> and grep, the need for cross-reference listings faded.  I used to be a
>> cross-reference fanatic; I wrote utilities that would cross-reference
>> JCL libraries (jobs using a given program, file name, or DDname), and
>> source libraries (modules using a given macro or DDname).
>> 
>
>Multics has a wonderful cross-reference of all symbols in the kernel.

As does the Lyon's commentary on Unix version 6.

And my locale cscope database has the entire cross-reference of
the kernel version I'm running on my desktop.
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