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Article #620715Re: Nostalgia
From: Scott Lurndal
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:39
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:39
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Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> writes: >Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote: >> Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> writes: >>> On Thu, 2018-03-01, Dan Espen wrote: >>>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> writes: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 2018-02-27, Peter Flass wrote: >>>>>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>>>> (Not that I would mind such a discussion. I'd like to know e.g. how >>>>>>> programming was affected by sitting at a slow serial terminal in the >>>>>>> 1980s.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Or a card reader in the '60s. >>>>> >>>>> That too, but I'm personally more interested in the time frame when >>>>> tools I use today were created: the Unix shells, C compilers, >>>>> vi/Emacs, troff ... >>>> >>>> I didn't consider a terminal on a 300 baud line slow. >>>> Emacs could scroll through a program reasonably fast >>>> at that speed. The immediate predecessor to slow terminals >>>> was cards. A completely different animal. >>> >>> Still, you must have been forced to keep more context in your head >>> than today? Or did you design everything with pencil and paper >>> beforehand? >> >> Using a decwriter, history was always just up the page. I still >> miss being able to go back and see exactly what I was doing hours >> earlier :=) >> > >Can't you "T" your terminal to a log? Sort of. Curses output, for example, gets a bit tricky and it gets worse when GUIs get involved. My terminal windows have 100,000 line history buffers so they last a long time, and I keep 20,000 of the last shell commands entered in the shell history file.
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