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Article #620699Re: Nostalgia
From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 22:44
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 22:44
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > The fact that keypunches didn't support lower case was merely an > implementation detail. If there had been a demand for lower case, > keypunch keyboards would be more like typewriter keyboards. Most > printers, on the other hand, supported 64 characters at best, and > exceptions (e.g. a 1403 with a TN chain) were avoided if possible > because they ran slower that way. IMHO it was printers that held > back the acceptance of lower case, not punches. BCD didn't support lower case, had to move to EBCDIC (w/360) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCD_(character_encoding) biggest computer goof, 360 was suppose to be ASCII (not EBCDIC) ... but ascii unit record gear wasn't available in time, so started with lots of existing BCD equipment (and then conversion was much harder) http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM 6bit encoding, bcd, ascii, more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-bit_character_code past posts mentioning P-BIT "goof" http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#26 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#27 Origins of EBCDIC http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#39 Mainframe Utility for EBCDIC to ASCII conversion http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#41 Disksize history question http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#63 CAPS Fantasia http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#4 Happy DEC-10 Day http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#65 They've changed the keyboard layout _again_ http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#9 Typewriter vs. Computer http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#67 Wondering if I am really eligible for this group http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#6 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#45 HP getting out of computer biz http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#23 computer bootlaces http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#5 Any candidates for best acronyms? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#45 CRLF in Unix being translated on Mainframe to x'25' http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#55 "Geek" t-shirts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#100 The PC industry is heading for collapse http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#52 M68k add to memory is not a mistake any more http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#55 Just for a laugh... How to spot an old IBMer http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#73 END OF FILE http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#36 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#84 72 column cards http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#52 8-bit bytes and byte-addressed machines http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#56 Reduced Symbol Set Computing http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#56 New HD http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#72 One reason for monocase was Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#14 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#61 32760? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#3 Ported Tools - Unix http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#49 Internet Mainframe Forums Considered Harmful http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#33 Teletypewriter Model 33 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#19 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix! http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#21 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix! http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#22 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix! http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#37 Subject Unicode http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#5 How many EBCDIC machines are still around? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#13 How many EBCDIC machines are still around? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#63 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#52 Rather nice article on COBOL on Vulture Central http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#24 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#29 Special characters for Passwords http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#99 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#4 Migration path for IBM 650 users? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#6 Migration path for IBM 650 users? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#65 16-bit minis, was Floating point http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#6 New Line vs. Line Feed http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#47 ASCII vs. EBCDIC (was Re: On sort options ...) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#0 Is it a lost cause? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#64 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#70 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#71 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#79 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#5 RFE? xlc compile option for C integers to be "Intel compat" or Little-Endian http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#109 Online Terminals -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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