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Article #620657Re: Nostalgia
From: Gareths Downstairs Computer
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:12
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:12
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On 16/02/2018 23:04, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2018-02-16, Gareth's Downstairs Computer > <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 16/02/2018 16:36, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2018-02-16, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-02-15, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> [22 lines snipped] >>>> >>>>> The nostalgia is for the sights, sounds, and smells those days. I can still >>>>> recall leaning over the 1132 printer waiting for my printout to start. >>>>> We're also nostalgic for out first acquaintance with the wonders of >>>>> computers. Now every kid over 8 knows more than we did 50 years ago. >>>> >>>> I consider that unlikely. >>> >>> Agreed. I can't accept that the creators of the Internet don't know >>> as much as the script kiddie who abuses it. >>> >>> Too many doting parents think their kid is a computer genius >>> simply because he knows how to click a mouse. >> >> I once contrated in a company where the meme that kids were >> ace on computers was held. The son of one of the directors had >> produced their first computerised product, all in machine code, >> and all typed in manually into a "Softy" PROM programmer. > > Well, don't keep us in suspense. Did it work? Did it work well? > Yes, it did work and sold well. Upgrading though was such a pain that they recoded in assembler *WITHOUT ANY COMMENTS* because, based on their experience with hexadecimal machine code, assembler was "self documenting"! I was contracted to work on a range of PID controllers for fermentation vessels (Temperature, pH, Dissolved Oxygen, etc) and when I said that they should let it be done in C because of all the maths involved they declined, so I spent much time developing 32 bit arithmetic in 8 bit assembler, which took longer to do (and was thus more expensive) than had C been permitted. The division routine was faultless, but took several days to debug because I was doing easy to follow divisions such as 300,000,000 (hex) divided by 3 and using an early hex-capable pocket calculator with only 7 segment displays, was misreading the B in a hex answer as a 6. Live and learn!
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