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Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>> Combat between First World nations is a bad idea anyways. But foot
>> soldiers can get killed in Third World ones.
>>
>> Solving a problem like Russia is more difficult. Out-waiting and out-
>> lasting worked with Communism, and while that was quite a surprise, for
>> Russia's current regime to outlive Putin by much seems unlikely.
>
> Milton Miles book ("Another Kind of War") first half was about going
> into china to setup coastal watchers but then spent much of the rest
> training 50,000 guerrillas fighting the Japanese. He then spends the
> last half of the book about how OSS and Army gave china to the
> communists. They came in and wanted to take over the whole
> operation. The US Navy and Nationalists rebuffed them, so to get
> something they could take credit for, they support the communists.
>
> Without giving China to the communists, there wouldn't be korean war,
> domino theory, vietnam war, current nuclear in korea, pakistan and iran,
> etc
>
> Tuchman's book (Stilwell biography) has Miles book in the bibliography
> but in the body has nothing from his book. She sort of respins Army
> giving china to the communists ... that Marshall believed that he needed
> Soviets to beat Japan (after the end of war in Germany) ... and so to
> appeal to the Soviets, US was giving support to the Chinese
> communists. In Manchuria there was 1.5M soviets fighting 1M Japanese. By
> comparison okinawa, US had 600k fighting 76k japanese.

She does cover what happened to all the supplies which were flown
over the Himalayas to help the China fight Japan.  It ended up in
warehouses instead of being disbursed to the Chinese Army.  This
wasn't discovered until after the war.  China lost a lot of favor
for doing that.

>
> However, Miles has Army supporting communists long before the end of
> european war and any encouragement for the Soviets to come into the
> Japanese war.
>
> Milton also references that there were some number of Chinese Army units
> that cooperated with the Japanese ... and towards the end they tried to
> come over to the nationalist but the US Army vetoed it, so they went
> over to the communists. It was these army units that fought the US in
> the Korean war.
>
> Marshall was then SECSTATE (47-49)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Marshall
> and they turned out a paper trying to absolve State for giving China to
> the communists
> https://archive.org/details/VanSlykeLymanTheChinaWhitePaper1949
>
> and recent reference to "Is Harvard responsible for the rise of Putin"
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#14 Predicting the future in five years
as seen from 1983
>
> perpetual war posts
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
> military-industrial(-congressional) complex
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

/BAH