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Re: free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

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From: J. Clarke
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 23:36
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:43:14 -0000 (UTC), John Levine
<jo...@taugh.com> wrote:

>In article <el718d5tr979j00m8...@4ax.com>,
>J. Clarke  <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Nonetheless, all over Europe and even in Canada people get health care
>>>for free, no payment at all at point of service, and they are
>>>healthier than Americans and the overall cost is about 1/2 of ours.
>>
>>Maybe the cost is 1/2 of ours because the populations they treat are
>>healthier.
>
>Nope.

On what basis do you make that assertion?

>>There is this unstated implication that "they are healthier because
>>the medical treatment system is better".  The notion that "they are
>>healthier because their lifestyle is different" never gets considered.
>
>Sorry, but anyone who has done even the most cursory research into
>healthcare outcomes knows this is nonsense.  They look at every factor
>you could imagine.  If you've ever been to the UK, you'd know that the
>notion that the British live healthier lives than we do is beyond
>absurd.

Who is this "they"?  As for living healthier lives, if they are not
getting sick as often then they are necessarily living healthier
lives.  You perhaps have some preconceptions about what constitutes
"healthy".

>Remember, we're not talking about teasing out tiny differences here.
>Here in the U.S. we pay twice, two times as much, as everyone else.

You haven't shown that the difference is due to different prices for
equal treatments though.
>
>R's,
>John
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