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Article #619968Re: Making Computers Secure
From: Jorgen Grahn
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:35
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:35
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On Tue, 2018-01-30, Quadibloc wrote: > On some tech news site, I came across a comment to the effect that things like > Meltdown and Spectre wouldn't be such a big deal... > > if the only executable content our computers ran were programs we installed on > them. That ignores the multiuser aspect of computers. > Of course, that wouldn't prevent viruses 100%, but it would return things back to > the situation that existed before the Internet. > > So when viewing a web site, the server would have to do all the work of any fancy > programmed behavior of the site. The computer would act like it was just a TV set > for viewing the site. > > I think that this suggestion is a little too extreme. After all, millions of > people might be viewing a site on a tiny little server. So the computers of > people viewing web sites have to be expected to do some of the work. A little less fancy programmed behavior would be nice for a change. Especially since it seems to be there for the benefit of the content provider most of the time. I wonder what the energy budget looks like for e.g.: - Wikipedia - YouTube - Facebook - Google's search engine, and their ads business - Usenet I.e. how many watts get burned, and where in the chain. I imagine that it varies widely, and that the clever operators try to push it client-side. Is there any good research on this? [snip computer architecture idea; sorry for not at commenting this time] /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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