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Article #619903Re: Prime
From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:02
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:02
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AndyW <An...@nojunqmail.com> writes: > I tried it. > It is just as awful as the first time I used it. Thankfully PCs were > coming in at the time and we switched to them after a couple of years > with the prime.... sorry Pr1me, must remember the '1' > I do recall that their security was appalling and it was an easy > matter to go 'Up' and 'LD' to find the lecturers' directories and then > 'Down' to a directory to get the lesson plans and assignments. with failure of FS and the mad rush to get products back into product pipelines ... 3033, 3081 (and 370/xa) was kicked off in parallel. http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm 370/xa design/architecture documents were eventually known as "811" for their nov1978 publication date. POK also managed to convince corporate to kill vm/370 product and transfer the (burlington mall, had originally been on 3rd flr 545tech sq, taking over the IBM Boston Program Center space, before moving out to vacant IBM SBC bldg at burlington mall) development group to POK to work on MVS/XA (claiming that otherwise they wouldn't be able to make MVS/XA ship date). They weren't going to inform the group until just before the move ... to minimize people that might escape. There was a leak and numerous people manage to escape in the rt128 vacinity. A lot went to DEC ... this was late 76, early 77 ... so they would have been there for early 11/780 work ... introduced oct1977 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX-11 however, some went to Prime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRIMOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRIMOS#Internals The unusual choice of FORTRAN for the OS programming language had to do with the people who founded Prime. They had worked for Honeywell on a NASA project.[9] FORTRAN was the language they had used both at NASA and, for many of them, at MIT. Since Prime's hardware did not perform byte addressing, there was no impetus to create a C compiler. Late models of the hardware were eventually modified to support I-mode, and programs compiled in C. Later, around version 18, a version of PL/1, called PL/P, became the high level language of choice within PRIMOS, and the PL/P and Modula-2 languages were used in the Kernel. Furthermore, some new PRIMOS utilities were written in SP/L, which was similar to PL/P. ... snip ... trivia: tech sq. was two story polaroid bldg facing the street. 545 tech sq with science center, project mac (multics) etc. was on one side http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545 and http://www.multicians.org/multics.html identical bldg. on the opposite side (from 545) included MIT Urban system lab with CP67/CMS datacenter ... story about USL http://www.multicians.org/thvv/360-67.html NASA was the fourth side of the sq (on backside across from Polaroid bldg.) ... more about tech sq. http://news.mit.edu/2004/techsquare-0317 and http://multicians.org/tech-square.html above mentions one of the Prime founders was there at Honeywell & NASA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Poduska posts mentioning FS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys other trivia, Endicott eventually acquired the VM370 product mission ... but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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