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On 4 Feb 2018 15:55:43 GMT, jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> wrote:

>Dave Garland wrote:
>> On 2/3/2018 9:07 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>>>>> hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 9:48:23 PM UTC-5, Andrew Swallow
>wrote:
>>>>>>> On 29/01/2018 16:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The one Hollywoodism that always bothered me is the way a telephone
>>>>>>>> reverts to a dial tone when the other end hang up.  I've never heard
>>>>>>>> this in real life, but maybe it's regional thing.  Can anyone from
>>>>>>>> New York say whether this really happens there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is nationwide. There is a dummy exchange that Hollywood and TV
>>>>>>> companies use. It does not matter what number you dial the equipment
>>>>>>> returns dial tone. The two actors were not talking to each other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Telephone sets used on movies/TV are not connected to anything.
>>>>>> Sound effects (tones, etc) are added later.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Even for movies made in the 40s, 50s and 60s?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.   And Stage plays used a autotransformer to supply ring
>>>> current when they needed an on-stage phone to ring, but it
>>>> wouldn't have been connected to an "exchange".
>>>
>>> I know how that is done.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that Andrew is referring to the special exchange number
>>>> '555' that will never be used (except for 555-1212) and is
>>>> suitable for example and hollywood use.
>>>
>>> My question was about the editing in of the sound effects.  I didn't
>>> think the tech was available that early.  Only one camera was used
>>> for TV shows until Desi Arnaz created new methods on the "I Love
>>> Lucy" show.
>>>
>> The tech was available. Sound effects were available on vinyl. And
>> radio shows used sound effects long before Lucy and Desi. For a
>> contemporary example, "Prairie Home Companion" sound effects are done
>> live, in real time (with an occasional skit starring the sound effects
>> guy), .Flex a piece of sheet metal, and you have thunder. Grab those
>> coconut shells and you've got hoofbeats. The ringing telephone
>> probably does require a ring generator (or a crank magneto) connected
>> to the telephone.
>
>Yes.  And those sound effects are made while the actors are doing the
>skits.  The OP said something about the sound effects getting put in
>later.  I read that to mean that the sound effects were dubbed in
>after the filming was done.
>
>/BAH
>
>>

Radio shows the sound effects were live. Movies and tv could have been
live, but might have just had a 'stand in' sound for the actors to
respond to. And the sound the producers wanted the audience to hear
was put in later.