Article View: alt.folklore.computers
Article #619784Re: 1956 -- circuit reliability book
From: Dave Garland
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 17:11
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 17:11
48 lines
4637 bytes
4637 bytes
On 2/3/2018 9:07 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>>> hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 9:48:23 PM UTC-5, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>>> On 29/01/2018 16:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one Hollywoodism that always bothered me is the way a telephone
>>>>>> reverts to a dial tone when the other end hang up. I've never heard
>>>>>> this in real life, but maybe it's regional thing. Can anyone from
>>>>>> New York say whether this really happens there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is nationwide. There is a dummy exchange that Hollywood and TV
>>>>> companies use. It does not matter what number you dial the equipment
>>>>> returns dial tone. The two actors were not talking to each other.
>>>>
>>>> Telephone sets used on movies/TV are not connected to anything.
>>>> Sound effects (tones, etc) are added later.
>>>>
>>> Even for movies made in the 40s, 50s and 60s?
>>
>> Yes. And Stage plays used a autotransformer to supply ring
>> current when they needed an on-stage phone to ring, but it
>> wouldn't have been connected to an "exchange".
>
> I know how that is done.
>
>>
>> I suspect that Andrew is referring to the special exchange number
>> '555' that will never be used (except for 555-1212) and is
>> suitable for example and hollywood use.
>
> My question was about the editing in of the sound effects. I didn't
> think the tech was available that early. Only one camera was used
> for TV shows until Desi Arnaz created new methods on the "I Love
> Lucy" show.
>
The tech was available. Sound effects were available on vinyl. And
radio shows used sound effects long before Lucy and Desi. For a
contemporary example, "Prairie Home Companion" sound effects are done
live, in real time (with an occasional skit starring the sound effects
guy), .Flex a piece of sheet metal, and you have thunder. Grab those
coconut shells and you've got hoofbeats. The ringing telephone
probably does require a ring generator (or a crank magneto) connected
to the telephone.
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<p54qf5$bvr$1@dont-email.me>Path:
mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!e39ni2034qtk.1!nntp.google.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mailReferences:
<2884a417-2702-428f-89fb-d21cda9eeaed@googlegroups.com> <d687cecb-0383-477c-ac8e-4cf57061ccd1@googlegroups.com> <M8HbC.621680$QL6.132451@fx20.am4> <p4njj33o96@news4.newsguy.com> <TqOdncSdOJxr4u_HnZ2dnUU78IXNnZ2d@giganews.com> <c4977b5c-cc78-4773-a02f-c3cf5c191a35@googlegroups.com> <PM0005643B1039BB8A@aca42e3d.ipt.aol.com> <2884a417-2702-428f-89fb-d21cda9eeaed@googlegroups.com> <p4b4es$nmv$1@dont-email.me> <87607pwqnm.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> <o8CaC.652306$nS6.186263@fx23.am4> <p4fovt0cot@news1.newsguy.com> <4KzbC.489966$HZ5.382140@fx22.am4> <d687cecb-0383-477c-ac8e-4cf57061ccd1@googlegroups.com> <M8HbC.621680$QL6.132451@fx20.am4> <p4njj33o96@news4.newsguy.com> <TqOdncSdOJxr4u_HnZ2dnUU78IXNnZ2d@giganews.com> <c4977b5c-cc78-4773-a02f-c3cf5c191a35@googlegroups.com> <PM0005643B1039BB8A@aca42e3d.ipt.aol.com> <l01dC.3919$qv.3169@fx33.iad> <PM0005645078010115@aca41e49.ipt.aol.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Received: by 10.55.20.20 with SMTP id e20mr10710827qkh.36.1517677862999; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 09:11:02 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: alt.folklore.computers@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.200.56.183 with SMTP id f52ls2566170qtc.5.gmail; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 09:11:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.200.46.97 with SMTP id s30mr30135417qta.22.1517677862096; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 09:11:02 -0800 (PST) Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!e39ni2034qtk.1!nntp.google.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dave Garland <dave.g...@wizinfo.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: 1956 -- circuit reliability book Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 11:11:00 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <p54qf5$bvr$1@dont-email.me> References: <2884a417-2702-428f-89fb-d21cda9eeaed@googlegroups.com> <d687cecb-0383-477c-ac8e-4cf57061ccd1@googlegroups.com> <M8HbC.621680$QL6.132451@fx20.am4> <p4njj33o96@news4.newsguy.com> <TqOdncSdOJxr4u_HnZ2dnUU78IXNnZ2d@giganews.com> <c4977b5c-cc78-4773-a02f-c3cf5c191a35@googlegroups.com> <PM0005643B1039BB8A@aca42e3d.ipt.aol.com> <2884a417-2702-428f-89fb-d21cda9eeaed@googlegroups.com> <p4b4es$nmv$1@dont-email.me> <87607pwqnm.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> <o8CaC.652306$nS6.186263@fx23.am4> <p4fovt0cot@news1.newsguy.com> <4KzbC.489966$HZ5.382140@fx22.am4> <d687cecb-0383-477c-ac8e-4cf57061ccd1@googlegroups.com> <M8HbC.621680$QL6.132451@fx20.am4> <p4njj33o96@news4.newsguy.com> <TqOdncSdOJxr4u_HnZ2dnUU78IXNnZ2d@giganews.com> <c4977b5c-cc78-4773-a02f-c3cf5c191a35@googlegroups.com> <PM0005643B1039BB8A@aca42e3d.ipt.aol.com> <l01dC.3919$qv.3169@fx33.iad> <PM0005645078010115@aca41e49.ipt.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 17:11:01 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="5a25d696e9fd42768ed291a4db3785bf"; logging-data="12283"; mail-complaints-to="ab...@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/WfvtQwzDiOCP6Q0u9n7xN3HD3KwwiSPw=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 In-Reply-To: <PM0005645078010115@aca41e49.ipt.aol.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:+R1KWXYsa6OjBbOkmb0y8RMN8vA= X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-Received-Bytes: 4170 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1731657816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit