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Article #619687Re: The Next New Military Specialty Should Be Software Developers
From: jmfbahciv
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:33
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:33
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JimP wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:18:44 -0800, Anne & Lynn Wheeler > <ly...@garlic.com> wrote: > >>Al Kossow <a...@bitsavers.org> writes: >>> "To remain a dominant force in the Information Age, the U.S. military >>> -- all four services -- must create a corps of software developers in >>> uniform." >>> >>> Because civilian contractors can't be trusted to do what they've >>> been doing for decades? >> >>re: >>http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#69 The Next New Military Specialty Should Be Software Developers >> >>so one scenario it is just excuse for getting more money in their >>budget. another scenario/excuse is they are trying to bypass the >>lengthy/complicated acquisition process (and the "success of failure" >>culture). >> >>enormous uptic in outsourcing after turn of century and the rapidly >>spreading "success of failure" culture >> >>we looked at situation where vendor that had done a website said it >>would be $10M to add two new web pages to the website. It might take a >>year or more. > > Must have been using illiterates to make the web pages. It takes about > 5 minutes to make an html page. Or they were just money grubbers. > >>slightly related, I've done a project or two with somebody that claimed >>he had coined the term COTS for government (primarily dataprocessing). >>We've had lots of discussions about COTS save huge amount of money >>... and may even be higher quality/function ... when the >>consumer/commercial use is similar to government/military use >>... however there have been lots of situations where there are attempts >>to force COTS for things that it was never intended for. > > I've seen COTS being used by a civilian company, the vendor took them > to the cleaners. The company could have gotten, in my opinion, the > 'additions to make it work the way we wanted it to' cheaper by getting > software written from scratch. Instead, they opted for add-ons... it > almost doubled the price they paid. Setting up computing services for mom/pops is still a "new" business and ripe for ripping off people. A local butcher (who made the best sausage links in the world) had his freezers break one weekend and they lost everthing. So they hired someone to set upt a system to alert them if the freezers stopped working. They were charged $10K for a temperature sensor hooked to a router. Absolutely ridiculous. A year later they were out of business--the $10K was the camel which broke the straw. /BAH
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