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Re: S/360 addressing, not Honeywell 200

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From: Charles Richmond
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 18:29
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On 1/27/2018 7:22 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2018-01-28, Dan Espen <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> writes:
>>
>>> In article <b204534e-f56c-4b29...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>
>>>> Memory addressing was a big issue in the original concept of
>>>> System/360.  Small machines had simple addresses which saved
>>>> memory, big machines had more complex addresses.  Providing space
>>>> for a large address was wasteful in a small machine, most
>>>> S/360 users were getting small ones.  As a compromise, IBM came
>>>> up with the base+displacement method.
>>>
>>> All 360s other than the /20 used the same addressing, full 24 bit
>>> addresses, instructions used base register plus 12 bit displacement
>>> sometimes plus index register.  Base register 0 meant direct
>>> addressing with the 12 bit displacement, but as far as I know that was
>>> used only in little bits of startup and trap handler code, not in
>>> applications.
>>
>> MVS applications often get system information
>> by using an address at a fixed low storage location (CVT at 16).
> 
> It also lets you use Load Address to load a constant from 0 to
> 4095 inclusive into a register (although if you're setting the
> register to zero it's faster to subtract it from itself).
> 

How does that compare with the time for exclusive-oring the resister 
with itself???  On the Intel 8080, that was the fastest way to zero the 
accumulator...

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numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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Subject: Re: S/360 addressing, not Honeywell 200
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