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Article #618187Re: Doubts about the HR departments that require knowledge of technology that does not exist.
From: jmfbahciv
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 15:14
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 15:14
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hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:34:44 AM UTC-5, jmfbahciv wrote: > >> > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:03:19 AM UTC-5, jmfbahciv wrote: >> > >> >> > The business programmer wouldn't be involved in mixing cement. >> >> > >> >> > He might be involved in billing the customer for the cement the >> >> > company made. In about 30 seconds the company could tell him >> >> > the units they use for selling their product, be they by volume >> >> > or weight, metric or English. Anyone who has finished eighth >> >> > grade knows about units of measure. >> >> > >> >> Why would the cement manufacturer have two programmers? Part of >> >> the business end of selling cement is the quality of the cement. >> > >> > Any business of more than a few people has specialists--a business >> > type person to do the accounting, pay bills, get out the payroll, >> > etc.; and an science/engineering person to design and manufacture >> > the product. Two different specialties. >> >> If a business only has a few people, would payroll, etc. really >> require a full-time person? > > I don't think companies that manufactured cement only have a few > people working for them. I visited one. The company made the cement according to the spec and poured into another company's trucks for transport. Cement manufacturers don't have to be the ones who use the cement. > >> > By the 1960s the data processing was also specialized into various >> > disciplines. Some folks were into hardware development. Others >> > were "systems programmers", working on compilers, operating systems, >> > and installing and maintaining them at customer locations. Still >> > others were application developers, often specialized in eng/sci >> > or business, even with S/360. >> >> You are talking about mid-cap or larger businesses which employ >> hundreds or more. > > Yes, the kind of places that would manufacture cement. It depends on the project. The first thing built when the Hoover Dam specs were approved was a cement plant and was run by the same people who built the dam. For smaller projects, a cement business would be geographically central to small projects. The contractors who needed cement for these projects would buy it from the local manufacturer. /BAH
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