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Article #618175Re: Doubts about the HR departments that require knowledge of technology that does not exist.
From: Elliott Roper
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 00:51
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 00:51
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On 1 Jan 2018, Huge wrote (in article <fashej...@mid.individual.net>): > On 2017-12-31, Jorgen Grahn<grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote: > > On Sun, 2017-12-31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > > On 2017-12-30, Dan Espen<dan1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ... > > > > I worked in lots of industries. > > > > Knowledge of the business was NEVER an issue. > > > > The skill is in prying the needed information out > > > > of the users, not in knowing what they need beforehand. > > > > > > This assumes you can even talk to the users. If it is a > > > political requirement that everything passes through an > > > intermediary, things are inevitably going to get garbled. > > > At my first job I finally got a chance to talk directly to > > > the customer, and it was amazing how much we were able to > > > clear the air. > > > > I sometimes wonder how many projects are saved by people cutting > > through the red tape that way ... > > All of them. :o) > > I've always suspected that one reason most outsourcing projects fail is > because a lot (perhaps most) of the IT in any company is done "under > the counter" by people cutting through the red tape, and is therefore > unknown to those doing the outsourcing deal. How else do you debug the specification? -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248
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