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Rich Alderson wrote:
> Charles Richmond <nume...@aquaporin4.com> writes:
>
>> On 1/2/2018 8:05 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
>>> Charles Richmond <nume...@aquaporin4.com> writes:
>
>>>> Okay, okay... maybe I asked this before on <a.f.c.>, but it must have
been
>>>> quite a while ago.
>
>>>> The following map for Colossal Cave Adventure was dredged up from
somewhere
>>>> on the internet.  It was obviously done with a pen plotter.  So does
anyone
>>>> know who plotted it and where???
>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ycjwvlc8
>
>>> Hunh.  That's a new one on me.  I was expecting the map done using SUDS
(the
>>> Stanford University Drawing System) at SAIL.  I had a multi-generation
>>> xerographic copy that came to UChicago from DEC; imagine my delighted
>>> surprise on encountering a full-sized (D- or E-paper from a plotter roll)
>>> posted in the office of the Director of LOTS when I went to work there at
>>> Stanford several years later.
>
>> You must mean Ralph E. Gorin, when he was head of LOTS.  ISTM you did
>> mention this in passing... in a previous <a.f.c.> post.  If *I* was
>> *not* so absentminded...  I should be able to remember details!  :-(
>
> Yup.  Ralph was the half time Director of LOTS.  The System Mannger and
System
> Programmer were full time positions, as was the administrative assistant.
The
> original director was John McCarthy (as in LISP, SAIL--the organization, not
> the language--, etc.), and Ralph was the original system manager, to get
LOTS
> started (Ralph's idea).  By the time I left, the title was "LOTS TOPS-20
> Systems Programmer" and we also had systems programmers for VM/SP (possibly
> HPO) for the 4381s and Unix systems administrators for the Ultrix, SunOS,
and
> AIX systems.
>
>> I've heard of other "lost" maps for Adventure... including one more map
>> done on a pen plotter... done by a guy in England (Mike Arnautov) who
>> also lost his map *and* the source data.
>
>> Also I think BAH once mentioned of a map that floated around DEC...
>> drawn with hexagons for rooms.  The hexagons were drawn using a plastic
>> graphics template.  No one seems to have a copy of this map anymore...

The story I told was about us making the map out of tinker toys.

>
> It was octagons, with an up arrow on the right hand end of the north side
and a
> down arrow on the left hand end of the south side.  That was the map of
which I
> had an Nth generation copy--we got our copy of Adventure at UChicago when
one
> of the applications people at the Comp Center went to Marlboro for classes;
he
> was later the head of the ARTFL project.

If he got it from DEC, the map was probably done by Dick Helliwell on
the TOPS-20 machine run by the hardware development group.  IIRC, they
did use SUDS for developemnt but I never saw it run (so this may be
a figment of a neuron).

/BAH