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Article #605Re: PDP-8 hate
From: ma... Vampire In The Sun
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1989 05:53
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1989 05:53
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In article <129...@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@sun.UUCP (Peter van der Linden) writes: >The PDP-8 was a peculiar system. I first programmed one in 1977, >and it was obsolete even then. It has a 12-bit word length, >leading to an astonishing 4K of memory. This can be extended by >bank switching to 12K or even more. > [..] On a somewhat related note, the DECMate I (and II and III, I think) word processors, which DEC brought out in the early 80's, ran on a PDP-8 microprocessor. The DECMate was also something of a peculiar system. The DECMate I consisted of a somewhat modified VT100 terminal, which in addition to the usual VT100 innards was equipped with a slot for the PDP-8 motherboard. The VT100 sat atop a compact wheeled box, which contained two to four RX02 8-inch floppy drives (klunk! klunk!) and a couple of logic boards to drive them. The keyboard was supported by a removable metal "shelf" that mounted to the front of the rolling case. (The "grabbers" that held the shelf onto the case were made of what appeared to be cheap pot-metal, and the ones in use here were constantly breaking. We finally had our machine shop whip up a bunch of stainless steel ones for us when we ran out of spares.) Not a bad system to use, considering that DEC had more or less cobbled it together as a quick first entry into the word processor market (although I think there was an even older version, using a VT52 and a slightly different disk format, and (I think) called something else), and I think the price was pretty reasonable for the time. However, despite the fact that the monitor was a (full-screen) VT100, all editing occurred on the bottom line of the screen. This was a major annoyance to many, who tended to flock to true full-screen products like WordPerfect when they became available. I always wondered what method had been used by DEC to optimize the handling of all those 8-bit characters using a 12-bit machine, or if in fact any optimization had been implemented at all. Does anyone know how this was handled? Was 2/3 (the upper 4 bits of each word) of the DECMate's memory "wasted", or were the characters packed into memory across word boundaries? Were the characters written to disk in 8 or 12 bit "bytes"? It seems like a good use of the upper 4 bits might have been to indicate things like whether the character was bold, underlined, etc. Anyone know? A curious former DECMate repair-being ...who wonders, too, how many DEC LQP02 (El Kewpie :) printers out there might today be leading more-or-less productive lives attached to IBM PC's, if only the stupid things knew how to handle EIA flow control (they used only XON/XOFF). Then again, maybe it's the stupid IBM PC, whose standard printer device is (or was) too dumb to know about XON/XOFF... -- --- "Puir Airnie"
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!snorkelwacker!apple!tahoe!malc From: ma...@tahoe.unr.edu (Vampire In The Sun) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: PDP-8 hate Keywords: pdp-8 Message-ID: <3411@tahoe.unr.edu> Date: 24 Dec 89 05:53:31 GMT References: <129595@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Reply-To: ma...@tahoe.unr.edu (Vampire In The Sun) Organization: The Shrine of Those Who Must Be Kept Lines: 56 Posted: Sun Dec 24 06:53:31 1989 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit