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Article #596586Re: E.R. Burroughs
From: Quadibloc
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:10
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:10
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:44:57 PM UTC-6, han...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:17:55 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote: > > > Ordinary law-abiding black Americans cannot go about their daily lives in the > > same serene and confident manner as white Americans - even when doing innocent > > things, there is always the possibility that they will be confronted by a > > gun-wielding police officer, and be moments away from death. > > You make a number of good points. However, I must respectfully > disagree with the above paragraph. FWIW, IMHO, law-abiding black > Americans are more at risk from getting shot by a criminal (either > as a direct victim of a crime or being in the wrong place), than > getting shot by a cop. Despite all the publicity, police shootings > are extremely rare, and conventional murders far more common. Police shootings may be more rare than shootings by criminals, but they are an additional hazard - *and* it's the poor black people who live in the poor black neighborhoods who bear most of the risk of getting shot by criminals. The black people who have made it into the middle class, and have left the slums behind them, _still_ face a significantly higher risk of being shot by the police than white people in a similar situation. This has an impact on how they can live their lives which is out of proportion to the actual level of risk of being one of the people who get shot. > > But juries are reluctant to convict police officers in situations like this. > > Can it be proven that it wasn't an innocent mistake? Would you want to create a > > chilling effect, preventing police from doing their jobs, preventing them from > > *protecting YOU*? > After the Baltimore case, where a bunch of cops were indicted, cops > pulled back, and the murder rate in the city soared. Like it or not, > that says something about the condition those cops have to work in, > which is really the big issue--the overall level of violence today. I'm not saying the other side of the argument is devoid of validity. Yes, points on that side are valid too, which is _why_ this isn't going to be an easy problem to solve. That makes things worse, not better. John Savard
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