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Article #4251Re: computer museum
From: how... Louis Howell
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 1990 15:56
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 1990 15:56
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In article <82...@aerospace.AERO.ORG>, s...@aerospace.aero.org (Scott "TCB" Turner) writes: |> The Computer Museum actually does have a punch card machine |> accessible, though it is a bit hard to find. And there's a machine |> running Logo for those who want to sit down and try a little |> programming; a better choice than Fortran 66 in my opinion. |> |> And not all the demos are mindless. I particularly liked the |> Symbolics that finds routes between any two street addresses in Boston |> and verbalizes the directions (with hints such as "watch for the pink |> building on the left"!), the machine that attempts to play harmony with |> you on the keyboard, and the computer drawing program. I'm pleased to hear that they've expanded in the right directions since I was there. I don't remember any of this stuff from about 2 years ago, except for a very large pen plotter that was continuously drawing cityscapes the whole time, and may be what you mean by the computer drawing program. Was the punch card machine working or just sitting there collecting dust? I think the main point is that computers are dynamic objects, not just lumps of metal and plastic. Who really cares about seeing a large ugly box with lots of tubes if it can't actually DO anything? Preservation of actual working hardware may be difficult, but I am quite attracted to Earl Boebert's idea of virtual preservation, i.e., simulate an old computer on a new one. This would preserve the "look and feel" of an architecture even if keeping hardware working were prohibitively expensive. An ENIAC would be more expensive to build today than the original was, but it should be possible to simulate one, right? Anyone know how the thing was programmed? My guess is some kind of plug board, but that's just a guess. Now imagine Xeniac running on your Sun, with mouse buttons in place of the plugs... Does anyone know what the first stored program computer was? I'm sure we could simulate its machine language, or assembler if it had one. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has already written a simulator for PDP-11 assembly language in C, an amusing turnabout if there ever was one. I can just see some history student in 2050 writing about the dawn of the computer age, running a PDP-10 simulator written in C on a C simulator written in the current language of choice. (Fortran '43 ? :-) Flame me if you will, but I wouldn't mind having a simulator for a TRS-80 with Level 2 BASIC and 16K RAM, which was THE cool machine to have when I was in high school. I still have printouts of some (not all, sigh) of the programs I wrote for it, as well as Lunar Lander, B-1 Bomber, and Star Trek! For preservation of this type to really be successful, both docs and software for these old systems must also be preserved. Any popular programs written after 1980 are probably safe, since thousands of packrat users have copies of source code on line or on floppies. (I still have every significant program I wrote since starting college still on line, and my available disk space is expanding much faster now than I can write.) Whole operating systems may be tougher. I'm sure early versions of UNIX still exist somewhere, but where? That would certainly be of historical interest. -- Louis Howell "A few sums!" retorted Martens, with a trace of his old spirit. "A major navigational change, like the one needed to break us away from the comet and put us on an orbit to Earth, involves about a hundred thousand separate calculations. Even the computer needs several minutes for the job."
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!lll-winken!bert.llnl.gov!howell From: how...@bert.llnl.gov (Louis Howell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: computer museum Message-ID: <1990Sep5.085627@bert.llnl.gov> Date: 5 Sep 90 15:56:27 GMT References: <3711@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl> <2201@opus.cs.mcgill.ca> <1990Aug31.160547@bert.llnl.gov> <1990Sep2.022449.17018@IRO.UMontreal.CA> <82964@aerospace.AERO.ORG> Sender: use...@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Reply-To: how...@bert.llnl.gov (Louis Howell) Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Lines: 67 Posted: Wed Sep 5 16:56:27 1990 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit