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Article #146377Re: Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!
From: ha... Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:00
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In article <7776pf$jbo$1...@news.seed.net.tw>, Dan Strychalski <dski@cameonet.cameo.com.twx> wrote: >Remember that every serious general-purpose system *must* have a Ctrl >key (even the Mac eventually got it), and that before 1986 Ctrl was >almost universally in the home row, immediately to the left of the A >key, the position preferred by most (*most*, I said) people who know a >thing or two about computers and must use the keyboard a great deal. yes, exactly where God intended it to be. >Since Z, X, and C are all in the bottom row (in QWERTY), Ctrl-Z, Ctrl-X, >and Ctrl-C, when used without a prefix keystroke in WordStar, move the >viewframe or the cursor down (all motion control is on the left hand). >Ctrl-V, being in the relatively awkward area between a touch typist's >hands, is assigned to the little-used insert/overtype toggle (and V can >be taken to represent "oVertype"). In blocK operations (which all have >Ctrl-K as a lead-in, and which include so-called cut-and-paste >functions), there is indeed a superficial similarity to the Mac >conventions: Ctrl-Kc copies, and Ctrl-Kv moVes, a marked block to the >current cursor position. Ctrl-Kx, however, is "save and exit with no >questions asked" As I recall, there was no "clipboard" type operation; the text had to remain existing int the document until moved or copied. >(This had the added benefit of ensuring that people would detest using >the keyboard and be ripe for Windows. I know a whole lotta people who >love, and I mean l-o-v-e LOVE WordStar, vi, or Emacs keystrokes and can >use them for everything all day every day. When was the last time you >heard anyone rave about WordPerfect, Word for MS/PC DOS, or MultiMate >[or, for that matter, Macintosh, or Windows, or CUA] command keystrokes? >Considering how many more people have used these programs by now, isn't >that just a little bit strange?) And with those evil keyboads with the control-key-in-exile, several days of heavy emacs work sent me to a physician to check out the strain. But now I have three genuine AT keyboards. One has a sticky R, another a sticky tab, and the third i haven't tried (it's filthy, but at $1/pop . . .). So I have to drop them on the desk twice a day; they have a good, stiff, response :) >By the end of the eighties, CP/M was out of contention, Wait a minute, wasn't this DR-DOS's heyday? I recall it peaking at about 10% market share, right until those mysterious windows crashes & funny "every unit you ship, regardless of using msdos" licensing terms. For those that don't recall, CP/M became CP/M-86 which spun off Concurrent CP/M which i observed multitasking in 1984 on an 8086, which became Concurrent Dos, or CDOS. I forget whether CP/M-86 or CDOS became DR-DOS, which became Novel Dos, which became Caldera Dos, which became DR-DOS, which premptively multitasks, unlike a certain popular system. If they weren't descended from CDOS, I don't know when they started multitasking, and I also don't know when it became concurrent. But I do know that in 1984 I had an 8mhz 8086 with 640K and no hard disk running word star, pip, and something else simultaneously. -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer.
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From: ha...@eyry.econ.iastate.edu (Richard E. Hawkins Esq.) Subject: Re: Why Ctrl-v for Paste?! Date: 1999/01/21 Message-ID: <7889ai$5em$1@eyry.econ.iastate.edu> X-Deja-AN: 435386803 References: <MPG.10fea95f452ce429989683@172.16.1.5> <369518ff.8806695@news.vip.net> <hizdnkFxi9dw-pn2-fHddsRSyHYkT@user-37ka <7776pf$jbo$1@news.seed.net.tw> Organization: House of Hawkins Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit