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Re: Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!

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From: deke.sp...
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 00:00
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On 9 Jan 1999 09:16:31 GMT, Dan Strychalski <dski@cameonet.cameo.com.twx> wrote:

 >Wherever the assignment of modifier-Z/X/C/V to Undo/Cut/Copy/Paste
 >originally came from, it was introduced to the computing public through
 >the first Macs, in 1984. 

Yes.

And MicroPro had a time machine, which is how these commands ended up in CP/M
versions of WordStar 5-7 years before then.

 >(By the way, what system uses Ctrl-X to delete a line? I've been at this
 >stuff since 1982, and I've never seen it.)

I don't know about "delete line" but Windows uses it for "delete block"

 >One of the design goals of the Mac's creators was to make programs such
 >as WordStar impossible. They were not about to copy anything from
 >WordStar. While WordStar lets you do *everything* through the Ctrl key,
 >the Mac in its first three years had *no* Ctrl key; it had a single
 >Command key, and that key was in the worst possible place for
 >comfortable use with all but a few character keys. The OS and the first
 >model apps simply did not allow keyboard-only operation. 

Making the Mac highly desirable for folks who had three hands - two for the
keyboard, and one for the mouse.

 >(Yo, Ralph -- it was indeed WordStar that jumped from zero to at least
 >seventy-five percent of the x86 word processing market in the second
 >half of 1982, creaming some twenty competitors. Sorry I didn't respond
 >to your question about this earlier; things have been gnarly here.)

You are looking at the wrong frame of reference. The x86 chips are an extension
of the 8080/Z80 chip. WordStar had that share of market in the CP/M world, and
if anything, it *increased* its market share as CP/M-86 and PC-DOS were
introduced. (Was it ever ported to the USCD operating system?)

deke

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From: deke.sp...@generous.net
Subject: Re: Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!
Date: 1999/01/09
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