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Article #1223Re: Cheating on Programs
From: ra... Anton Rang
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1990 00:31
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1990 00:31
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In article <22...@unix.cis.pitt.edu> dt...@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes: >In article <15...@haddock.ima.isc.com> br...@ima.isc.com writes: >>Is there any excuse for maintaining the sanctity of individual work >>at the college level? > >Yes. [ ... talking about commuters etc. ... ] I really think that *both* individual and group work is important at the college level (assuming that a lot of students come in without having had reasonable pre-college courses). For introductory courses, it makes a lot of sense to have projects be entirely individual; in fact, even a lot of higher-level courses have small projects (for instance, an OS course which starts by having students write a parallel merge sort). However, it's really important for students to learn to work in groups for the real world--it's a different set of skills. Until all schools have software engineering courses, it's especially important to have a few large group projects in upper-level classes. >Also, not all groups are as "self-policing" as yours seemed to be. The larger the group, the better it seems to work, in my experience. A 4-person group (quite reasonable for project courses) generally seems to do pretty well at "self-policing". The one time I was in a 20-person group (or so), we managed quite well. >The idea of expecting higher quality from larger groups is a good one, but in >practice it could be a nightmare trying to compare essentially incomparable >projects, and assign an equitable grade to each. It's hard, but the same can be said for large individual projects. I think giving students the experience of working in groups is more important. Anton (still a student :-) +---------------------------+------------------+-------------+ | Anton Rang (grad student) | ra...@cs.wisc.edu | UW--Madison | +---------------------------+------------------+-------------+
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!uupsi!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!uwvax!rang From: ra...@cs.wisc.edu (Anton Rang) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Cheating on Programs Message-ID: <RANG.90Feb25183114@derby.cs.wisc.edu> Date: 26 Feb 90 00:31:14 GMT References: <3583@tahoe.unr.edu> <1990Feb2.080816.9889@cs.rochester.edu> <1990Feb5.200603.14729@axion.bt.co.uk> <22138@unix.cis.pitt.edu> <C_&i-n2@cs.psu.edu> <1990Feb15.235154.13728@world.std.com> <15971@haddock.ima.isc.com> <22386@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Sender: ne...@spool.cs.wisc.edu Organization: UW-Madison CS department Lines: 41 Posted: Mon Feb 26 01:31:14 1990 In-reply-to: dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu's message of 16 Feb 90 23:25:26 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit